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On Feb 2, 2008 6:10 PM, trung nguyen wrote:
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A nice conversation.
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From: Lalith Ranatunga
Date: Feb 2, 2008 5:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Triplegem] noble truth


Hi Leo,
The first Noble truth is Birth is suffering, ageing is suffering,death is suffering, sorrow, lamentation, pain, sadness and distress are suffering. Union with what is displeasing is suffering, separation from what is pleasing is suffering, not getting what one wants is suffering. In short, the five aggregates of grasping are suffering. Buddha did not use the term 'life'. Buddha also said that 'Whatever is felt is included in suffering' That has been stated by Buddha with reference to the impermanence of formations. Yes, there is pleasurable feeling but it is also included in suffering as it is impermanent.
With metta,
Lalith

On Feb 2, 2008 3:17 PM, Leo wrote:

Hi I am not sure about correct translation of th First Noble Truth. In some cases it looks to me it is translated as: Life is suffereing. In other cases, there are Suttas, that tells about different happiness in life. So from that I can come to conclusion, that First Noble Truth shouls be: Life has suffering. (not life is suffering, or all suffering) I would really appreciate, if you would tell me if it can be translated like that: Life has suffering, from Pali language.
With Metta
Leo

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